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Re: Fight Club - Football Club Memberships

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:06 am
by Terry
The_Wookie wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:37 am
Terry wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:24 am


Thanks pal. I have those. I will check them out and report on the numbers given in due course.
like i give a fuck what you "report".
That's a given my friend. Can I ask where you got your figure of $4.418M for GWS membership/season ticket/gate/merch from their 2018 annual report? Ta pal!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Fight Club - Football Club Memberships

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:07 pm
by Fred
Yeah Pal !!


:)

Re: Fight Club - Football Club Memberships

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:29 pm
by Terry
Fred wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:07 pm
Yeah Pal !!


:)
You seem to be trolling me pal. It's kind of impressive I mean that much to you!!!! I well remember the days when you refused to converse with me after the multiple thrashings I gave you lololololol!!!!!!! After which you retired to the jungle to save further humiliation lololoo!!!!!

Here's hoping you stay in the fight this time pal. Stay well!!!!!

Re: Fight Club - Football Club Memberships

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:49 pm
by Terry
The_Wookie wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:42 pm
Terry wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:06 am

That's a given my friend. Can I ask where you got your figure of $4.418M for GWS membership/season ticket/gate/merch from their 2018 annual report? Ta pal!!!!!!!!!!
you can ask. But i really dont feel like helping you out today, Pal.
Thanks pal. Sorry to worry you. It's just that I can't find any figures that add up to that amount in the AR. No doubt it is my ignorance. I will take another look and let you know what I come up with.

Cheers pal!!!!!!

Re: Fight Club - Football Club Memberships

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:09 pm
by AngloFootballLeague
The_Wookie wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:12 pm
ParraEelsNRL wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:47 pm
Head office money is not revenue idiot.

How could they be making anything when all their so called supporters would fit in a phone booth. Thickshit.
Head office revenue and membership revenue are reported separately.

And just for comparison

Match Returns (Membership/Season Tickets & Gate)

GWS – $4,418,738 (includes merch)
Swans - Sydney – $16,375,126 (+ $766k in merch)

Parramatta - $2,762,078 (+693k in merch)
Penrith - $2,250,000 (+1.398m in merch)
Roosters - $1,798,624 (+518k in merch/royalties) + possible 1.7m in members subs.
Bulldogs - $2,273,274 (+$995k in merch)
Sharks -$973,042 + possible $2,092,248 in members subs. (+1.6m in merch)
How can a club which only half fills its stadium twice a season, gives countless free tickets away & has so few supporters based on TV audience, generate such income?
Maybe includes fee paid by ACT government?

Re: Fight Club - Football Club Memberships

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:59 pm
by Terry
The_Wookie wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:21 pm
Terry wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:49 pm
The_Wookie wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:42 pm


you can ask. But i really dont feel like helping you out today, Pal.
Thanks pal. Sorry to worry you. It's just that I can't find any figures that add up to that amount in the AR. No doubt it is my ignorance. I will take another look and let you know what I come up with.

Cheers pal!!!!!!
Ok my first figure is wrong, because i didnt caculuate in 1.984m in other AFL distributions.

Its because the match receipts and the AFL distribution are combined in the GWS report, To get the match reciepts you need to subtract the AFL Distribution which isnt listed in the GWS report, but is listed in the AFL repor.

GWS Report -
AFL Distributions and Match Reciepts - 25,692,602
Membership and Merchandise - 1,870,350

AFL Report
22,876,000 + 1,984,000 = 24,860,000

therefore - Match Receipts = 25,692,602 - 24,860,000 = 832,602
GWS MAtch Receipts/Memberships and Merchandise = 832,602 + 1870350 = $2,702,952

Amended first post.

Match Returns (Membership/Season Tickets & Gate)

GWS – $2,702,952 (includes merch)
Swans - Sydney – $16,375,126 (+ $766k in merch)

Parramatta - $2,762,078 (+693k in merch)
Penrith - $2,250,000 (+1.398m in merch)
Roosters - $1,798,624 (+518k in merch/royalties) + possible 1.7m in members subs.
Bulldogs - $2,273,274 (+$995k in merch)
Sharks -$973,042 + possible $2,092,248 in members subs. (+1.6m in merch)
Thanks pal. That's the figure I came up with. Having perused AR's from different sports its seems it is rather hard to have direct comparisons due to the differing methods of reporting. It does however seem rather strange GWS add match receipts with AFL distribution. No other AFL club reports it that way that I have perused.

And when comparing GWS with GC Suns there is a massive difference. GC had average crowds of 13.5k & membership of 12k and showed $7.5M for membership/ticketing/merch for 2018. GWS had 12k avg crowds and 25k membership for $2.7M. By the numbers GWS should have taken more money. Instead they barely got 1/3 of the Suns amount. Weird!!!

Re: Fight Club - Football Club Memberships

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:22 pm
by Terry
Actually my figure was slightly different to Wookies. It was reported that GWS got additional support of $2.5M from the AFL during 2018. Meaning GWS' total would have been $2.2M all up for members/ticketing/merch. However the money was in 2 separate loans so there is a possibility the half mill loan may have fallen into another financial year.

Having said that Wookie says his numbers are from the AFL AR so that is probably correct.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/gia ... 51845.html

Re: Fight Club - Football Club Memberships

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:21 pm
by Terry
Terry wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:22 pm
Actually my figure was slightly different to Wookies. It was reported that GWS got additional support of $2.5M from the AFL during 2018. Meaning GWS' total would have been $2.2M all up for members/ticketing/merch. However the money was in 2 separate loans so there is a possibility the half mill loan may have fallen into another financial year.

Having said that Wookie says his numbers are from the AFL AR so that is probably correct.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/gia ... 51845.html
Update: I've taken a look at the AFL AR 2018. The 'other' distributions Wookie spoke about do not relate to the loans given by the AFL.

Re: Fight Club - Football Club Memberships

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:01 pm
by ParraEelsNRL
Eels 25,818

Re: Fight Club - Football Club Memberships

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:56 pm
by leeroy*NRL*
Yeah well done Parra, amazing what a new stadium can do.

Re: Fight Club - Football Club Memberships

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:25 pm
by leagueiscrap
not bad for a city of 250k
a packed house of around 30k most home games as well!
great effort to the cats

kinda hilarious especially when no nrlol team in Sydney a city of 5 million can get anywhere near close
or even the broncos a loan team in Brisbane

Re: Fight Club - Football Club Memberships

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:33 pm
by Cats_Steve
The_Wookie wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:15 pm
Not bad for a little regional club.

Would you care to give me an AFL comparison for the Eels in regards to support, prestige etc. ? More Pies or North?

Re: Fight Club - Football Club Memberships

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:18 am
by AngloFootballLeague
Cats_Steve wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:33 pm
The_Wookie wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:15 pm
Not bad for a little regional club.

Would you care to give me an AFL comparison for the Eels in regards to support, prestige etc. ? More Pies or North?
Seems like a sad insular place that lacks culture & diversity.

Re: Fight Club - Football Club Memberships

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:49 am
by Fred
One goes away the other frequents lol

Re: Fight Club - Football Club Memberships

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:50 am
by leeroy*NRL*
if your comparing Geelong to NRL club it would be Newcastle Knights from a regional point of view.

Not to sure what there membership base is at the moment.