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Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:26 am
by Cats_Steve
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:07 am
will be interesting to see who gets in first..

Both codes will want there game running well and rating well..

interesting the AFL wanted it lined up with the NRL TV Deal..

but YES!
I would say the networks paid that little extra to secure the AFL for an extra Year..

does make the NRL deal look even better considering
Sorry for not knowing these but again I don't feel like searching. What are the current deals and when do they expire?

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:33 am
by leeroy*NRL*
Cats_Steve wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:26 am
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:07 am
will be interesting to see who gets in first..

Both codes will want there game running well and rating well..

interesting the AFL wanted it lined up with the NRL TV Deal..

but YES!
I would say the networks paid that little extra to secure the AFL for an extra Year..

does make the NRL deal look even better considering
Sorry for not knowing these but again I don't feel like searching. What are the current deals and when do they expire?
AFL 2.5bill Deal ( 6 year Term) 18 Australian Teams expires end of 2022 season
NRL 1.8bill Deal ( 5 year Term) 15 Australian Teams expires end of 2022 season

Both deals do not include Radio Broadcasts.

NRL Deal does not include NZ Tv Deal >> 1 NZ team
deal was struck in 2013 tv deal for 100mill (tv Deals are estimated to have doubled)

NRL includes 3 SOO Games on top of H&A season

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:46 am
by Cats_Steve
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:33 am
Cats_Steve wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:26 am
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:07 am
will be interesting to see who gets in first..

Both codes will want there game running well and rating well..

interesting the AFL wanted it lined up with the NRL TV Deal..

but YES!
I would say the networks paid that little extra to secure the AFL for an extra Year..

does make the NRL deal look even better considering
Sorry for not knowing these but again I don't feel like searching. What are the current deals and when do they expire?
AFL 2.5bill Deal ( 6 year Term) 18 Australian Teams expires end of 2022 season
NRL 1.8bill Deal ( 5 year Term) 15 Australian Teams expires end of 2022 season

Both deals do not include Radio Broadcasts.

NRL Deal does not include NZ Tv Deal >> 1 NZ team
deal was struck in 2013 tv deal for 100mill (tv Deals are estimated to have doubled)

NRL includes 3 SOO Games on top of H&A season
When you ask if that makes the NRL's deal look even better considering, do you mean the fact that it's expiring? Seeing as you're going to get alot more from the first year of your next rights than you would have on an added year to the current deal?

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:54 am
by leeroy*NRL*
what i ment in saying " Makes the NRL deal look even better considering"

is that the AFL offered a 6 year Deal.. where as NRL only did 5 years

Networks would pay more for an extra year as it adds security to the product.

in suming up... The NRL deal side by side to the AFL deal.
if you look at it from many angles.. are very close...

which is quite amazing due to the fact in NRL games Advertising spots are very limited..
where as AFL there is quite alot..

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:05 pm
by NlolRL
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:54 am
what i ment in saying " Makes the NRL deal look even better considering"

is that the AFL offered a 6 year Deal.. where as NRL only did 5 years

Networks would pay more for an extra year as it adds security to the product.

in suming up... The NRL deal side by side to the AFL deal.
if you look at it from many angles.. are very close...

which is quite amazing due to the fact in NRL games Advertising spots are very limited..
where as AFL there is quite alot..
but there are other factors which make the NRL more 'profitable' such as ch9 effectively control the fixture, the Broncos are played on FTA consistently, most games are in prime time, most weeks have Thursday night games, Sydney market is by far the most lucrative for advertising etc

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:17 pm
by leeroy*NRL*
NlolRL wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:05 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:54 am
what i ment in saying " Makes the NRL deal look even better considering"

is that the AFL offered a 6 year Deal.. where as NRL only did 5 years

Networks would pay more for an extra year as it adds security to the product.

in suming up... The NRL deal side by side to the AFL deal.
if you look at it from many angles.. are very close...

which is quite amazing due to the fact in NRL games Advertising spots are very limited..
where as AFL there is quite alot..
but there are other factors which make the NRL more 'profitable' such as ch9 effectively control the fixture, the Broncos are played on FTA consistently, most games are in prime time, most weeks have Thursday night games, Sydney market is by far the most lucrative for advertising etc
cmon now....

Ch9 does not control the fixture this changed under this deal...
The NRL are in full control of the Fixture..

Broncos are on FTA 16 times throughout year..

Crows, port, freo, eagles, giants, swans, lions, suns have 22 FTA games per year each give or take.

let alone how many on the Big Melbourne teams are on FTA..
quick check Richmond Tigers are 13 Prime FTA spots in 2018 year..

so that point is invalid..

AFL have just as many games in primetime>> Another point invalid..

as stated before sydney has 28% advertising jump on Melbourne.. data from 2016 (which melbourne is climbing)
but this does not make up for the NRL having appox 3 advertising spots a half
to the AFL well over 20..

Thank You

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:31 pm
by AFLcrap1
Jesus where do these fumblers get the NRL has more games in prime time crap from .
For years they have posted this & its continuously shown as bullshit .

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:43 pm
by NlolRL
AFLcrap1 wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:31 pm
Jesus where do these fumblers get the NRL has more games in prime time crap from .
For years they have posted this & its continuously shown as bullshit .
NRL prime time games: Thursday 8pm, Friday 6pm, Friday 8pm, Saturday 6pm, Sunday 8pm, so 5 out of 8 or 63%

AFL prime time games: Friday 7.50pm, Saturday 7.30pm x 2, so 3 of 9, or 30%, or at worst 4 from 9 when they have Thursday games, or 44%

:wave:

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:44 pm
by NlolRL
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:17 pm
NlolRL wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:05 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:54 am
what i ment in saying " Makes the NRL deal look even better considering"

is that the AFL offered a 6 year Deal.. where as NRL only did 5 years

Networks would pay more for an extra year as it adds security to the product.

in suming up... The NRL deal side by side to the AFL deal.
if you look at it from many angles.. are very close...

which is quite amazing due to the fact in NRL games Advertising spots are very limited..
where as AFL there is quite alot..
but there are other factors which make the NRL more 'profitable' such as ch9 effectively control the fixture, the Broncos are played on FTA consistently, most games are in prime time, most weeks have Thursday night games, Sydney market is by far the most lucrative for advertising etc
cmon now....

Ch9 does not control the fixture this changed under this deal...
The NRL are in full control of the Fixture..

Broncos are on FTA 16 times throughout year..

Crows, port, freo, eagles, giants, swans, lions, suns have 22 FTA games per year each give or take.

let alone how many on the Big Melbourne teams are on FTA..
quick check Richmond Tigers are 13 Prime FTA spots in 2018 year..

so that point is invalid..

AFL have just as many games in primetime>> Another point invalid..

as stated before sydney has 28% advertising jump on Melbourne.. data from 2016 (which melbourne is climbing)
but this does not make up for the NRL having appox 3 advertising spots a half
to the AFL well over 20..

Thank You
Wrong, NRL have over 60% prime time, AFL less than 45%

And all we see on LU is NRL fans complaining about TV friendly scheduling which impacts crowds. So why are they scheduling for TV over Crowds? Ch9/fox, that's why :wink:

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:47 pm
by leeroy*NRL*
NlolRL wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:44 pm
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:17 pm
NlolRL wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:05 pm

but there are other factors which make the NRL more 'profitable' such as ch9 effectively control the fixture, the Broncos are played on FTA consistently, most games are in prime time, most weeks have Thursday night games, Sydney market is by far the most lucrative for advertising etc
cmon now....

Ch9 does not control the fixture this changed under this deal...
The NRL are in full control of the Fixture..

Broncos are on FTA 16 times throughout year..

Crows, port, freo, eagles, giants, swans, lions, suns have 22 FTA games per year each give or take.

let alone how many on the Big Melbourne teams are on FTA..
quick check Richmond Tigers are 13 Prime FTA spots in 2018 year..

so that point is invalid..

AFL have just as many games in primetime>> Another point invalid..

as stated before sydney has 28% advertising jump on Melbourne.. data from 2016 (which melbourne is climbing)
but this does not make up for the NRL having appox 3 advertising spots a half
to the AFL well over 20..

Thank You
Wrong, NRL have over 60% prime time, AFL less than 45%

And all we see on LU is NRL fans complaining about TV friendly scheduling which impacts crowds. So why are they scheduling for TV over Crowds? Ch9/fox, that's why :wink:
Your not including FTA reach for AFL clubs around Australia in Prime time>>
NRL have games on FOX Only...

the Only games are Thursday night and 6pm Fridays are the issues.

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:51 pm
by leeroy*NRL*
AFL have 8 Thursday games this year.
Friday 6pm is hardly Primetime

Please get these games right NRL games on Saturdays start times

NRL
3pm
5:30pm
7:30pm

AFL have alot more reach with FTA to various Football teams

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:07 pm
by pussycat
NlolRL wrote: Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:35 pm
pussycat wrote: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:11 pm

We acknowledge it all the time. and then we reply, 'you get extra FTA coverage , Crows, Port, Freemantle, Swans, Suns, WCE, GWS and Lions, all being shown on FTA into there home market'. But it just goes in one ear and out the other. Then around we go again. Or sometimes a different excuse, only more fucked up than the first. Then round & round we go. Another excuse, a fucked up theory, but, but, but. [-(
and I respond with you only have 3 metro markets, 2 of which have only 1 team. We have 5 metro markets with 4 having 8 teams.

The NRL can target their entire metro heartland in 1 game, while we need multiple games do get the same result.

Metro/5 city or Regional, there is no difference, there all viewers.

As usual totally irrelevant . However it does sound like your finally accepting that RL does attract more viewers.

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:11 pm
by AFLcrap1
NlolRL wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:43 pm
AFLcrap1 wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:31 pm
Jesus where do these fumblers get the NRL has more games in prime time crap from .
For years they have posted this & its continuously shown as bullshit .
NRL prime time games: Thursday 8pm, Friday 6pm, Friday 8pm, Saturday 6pm, Sunday 8pm, so 5 out of 8 or 63%

AFL prime time games: Friday 7.50pm, Saturday 7.30pm x 2, so 3 of 9, or 30%, or at worst 4 from 9 when they have Thursday games, or 44%

:wave:
That's straight out lying .
Fri 6 pm is on STV
sat 6 pm is STV
Sun 8 pm .where did you pull that from ..your arse

Afl has fri nite FTA 7.50 same as NRL
Sat FTA 7.30..

You have been caught out again .

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:16 pm
by NlolRL
leeroy*NRL* wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:51 pm
AFL have 8 Thursday games this year.
Friday 6pm is hardly Primetime

Please get these games right NRL games on Saturdays start times

NRL
3pm
5:30pm
7:30pm

AFL have alot more reach with FTA to various Football teams
As I said, even with Thursday games we only have 44% prime time. Other than that we have 36%

How the hell is 6pm - 8pm, or 5.30pm to 7-730pm not prime time? This is when the news is shown which rates the highest every single night

Re: Fight Club - Football TV Ratings

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:19 pm
by NlolRL
AFLcrap1 wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:11 pm
NlolRL wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:43 pm
AFLcrap1 wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:31 pm
Jesus where do these fumblers get the NRL has more games in prime time crap from .
For years they have posted this & its continuously shown as bullshit .
NRL prime time games: Thursday 8pm, Friday 6pm, Friday 8pm, Saturday 6pm, Sunday 8pm, so 5 out of 8 or 63%

AFL prime time games: Friday 7.50pm, Saturday 7.30pm x 2, so 3 of 9, or 30%, or at worst 4 from 9 when they have Thursday games, or 44%

:wave:
That's straight out lying .
Fri 6 pm is on STV
sat 6 pm is STV
Sun 8 pm .where did you pull that from ..your arse

Afl has fri nite FTA 7.50 same as NRL
Sat FTA 7.30..

You have been caught out again .
Doh, I meant Sat 8pm,not Sunday.

This is 5 games shown between 5.30pm and 10pm per round, far higher proportion that the AFL