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Wow. I was under the impression that they generally outrate.NlolRL wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:35 pmhere's my take on the ratings battle:Cats_Steve wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:07 pmHaha thanks mate. At least that makes sense, sorta, with the accumulated totals.SportCapital wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:42 pm
What you may not realise Steve, even though the AFL regularly smashes the NRL for ratings.
At the end of the season when they add NRL, state of origin and international games viewers all together RL eclipses the stand alone AFL total.
That's why they always refer to it as RL (Rugby league) as a code being the most watched.
But of course if you look at stand alone competitions, the AFL is the most watched competition, hence the regular smashing of the NRL.
I hope this was helpful and allow you to now have more informed retorts regarding ratings to our northern counterparts.
So do we subtract the Melbourne ratings from origin, gf and Internationals from your year end total? Coz those figures are coming from people with a different favourite sport.
- AFL consistently outrates the NRL on FTA, and consistently on STV when the scheduling conditions are similar. This includes games on Thursdays, Fridays and public holidays.
- However, the NRL consistently outrate the AFL on STV on Saturday's and Sundays. This is because the AFL overlap almost all their games on the weekend so every game cannibalises viewers from another. The NRL do not do this, they make sure none of their games are shown at the same time as another.
- The end result, when SOO and other rep games are included, is RL wins the total of all ratings for the year.
My view is the cumulative ratings would only be relevant when considering popularity if scheduling conditions were identical, or at least similar. They are not, so the figure is meaningless.
Fact is our GF is usually ahead of theirs, our finals usually beat theirs, our blockbuster games usually beat theirs, and our games in general usually beat theirs when shown under similar conditions.
That's very well explainedNlolRL wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:57 pmWe have 1 or 2 games shown on their own, and win those almost every time. The all our other games are overlapped with other AFL games which means they rate about half their potential. Afterall, no one can watch 2 games at once, and even if you could it wouldnt be counted by OZTAM. So taking this into account the ratings are similar per round, but the NRL have more rounds, SOO and other rep games. So counting all those together means RL is ahead.
However, one point that isnt taken into account is our 9 games go over 27 hours of viewing, while their 8 games go for only 16 hours. So for an NRL fan to be counted 8 times by OZTAM over a round (ie a neutral fans watching every game) they only need to watch 2 hours on Thursday, 4 hours on Friday, 6 hours on Saturday and 4 hours on Sunday. While that's a fair bit of TV it's spread out over 4 days and therefore achievable.
For an AFL fan to be counted 9 times by OZTAM over a round (ie watching every game) they need to watch 3 hours on Friday, a whopping 15 hours on Saturday, then 9 hours on Sunday. Realistically, who is going to watch 27 hours of sport in 2 and a bit days? In fact they couldnt even do it if they tried because all but one of those games overlap with another AFL game. Therefore, the most they can watch is 18 hours which means they are only counted 6 times, not 9 times. In other words an AFL fan can watch 2 more hours of AFL over a weekend and counted as watching 2 less games, which drastically effects the season total.
For these reasons the ratings totals for the full season are completely misleading and heavily favour the NRL.
LolCats_Steve wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:07 pmHaha thanks mate. At least that makes sense, sorta, with the accumulated totals.SportCapital wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:42 pmWhat you may not realise Steve, even though the AFL regularly smashes the NRL for ratings.Cats_Steve wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:00 pm
Wow there's going to be no point with you, I'm glad I've learnt that early
At the end of the season when they add NRL, state of origin and international games viewers all together RL eclipses the stand alone AFL total.
That's why they always refer to it as RL (Rugby league) as a code being the most watched.
But of course if you look at stand alone competitions, the AFL is the most watched competition, hence the regular smashing of the NRL.
I hope this was helpful and allow you to now have more informed retorts regarding ratings to our northern counterparts.
So do we subtract the Melbourne ratings from origin, gf and Internationals from your year end total? Coz those figures are coming from people with a different favourite sport.
We have responded over & over .NlolRL wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:15 pmThey wont respond. They dont engage in these points because it shows their cumulative ratings 'victory' is all smoke and mirrors and is only acknowledged by Roy Masters, RL puppet.
But you are spot on, their games are watched by a same smaller audience, but scheduling differences mean they watch more often
yep, fishbowl, laps, and call Gil......they're the usual response.AFLcrap1 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:19 pmWe have responded over & over .NlolRL wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:15 pmThey wont respond. They dont engage in these points because it shows their cumulative ratings 'victory' is all smoke and mirrors and is only acknowledged by Roy Masters, RL puppet.
But you are spot on, their games are watched by a same smaller audience, but scheduling differences mean they watch more often
You just ignore facts & post the same rot over & over .
Its no different to how your ratings are counted, No different to any other TV ratings. However if you want to be pedantic . We have had 4 of the top 5 rating shows for the last 10 years . And the top rating show is almost always a league game,NlolRL wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:15 pmThey wont respond. They dont engage in these points because it shows their cumulative ratings 'victory' is all smoke and mirrors and is only acknowledged by Roy Masters, RL puppet.
But you are spot on, their games are watched by a same smaller audience, but scheduling differences mean they watch more often
What the fuck am I on? Directed at thingo's signature.AFLcrap1 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:17 pmLolCats_Steve wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:07 pmHaha thanks mate. At least that makes sense, sorta, with the accumulated totals.SportCapital wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:42 pm
What you may not realise Steve, even though the AFL regularly smashes the NRL for ratings.
At the end of the season when they add NRL, state of origin and international games viewers all together RL eclipses the stand alone AFL total.
That's why they always refer to it as RL (Rugby league) as a code being the most watched.
But of course if you look at stand alone competitions, the AFL is the most watched competition, hence the regular smashing of the NRL.
I hope this was helpful and allow you to now have more informed retorts regarding ratings to our northern counterparts.
So do we subtract the Melbourne ratings from origin, gf and Internationals from your year end total? Coz those figures are coming from people with a different favourite sport.
Some facts for you
Afl fans on here only look at ratings through the insular prism of one comp..because that's all they have
We are multi tiered..with rep games attracting huge ratings ..a positive
But also impacting on nrl game ratings due to missing players etc .a negative .
AFL has more games per week .
Has more teams .
RL has a team from Nz who's home ratings are not counted amongst the ratings
So it's 18 teams ratings v 15 teams ratings plus rep games .
Afl games that overlap are broadcast into home markets to maximise viewers .
Which makes up for the loss of any viewers due to overlap .
Yet despite all this we smash you in overall ratings for th year..
Some accept this .
Others are far too brainwashed to see the reality
As for subtracting viewers because it's not their fave sport .
What the fuck are you on
It says it on their website...........Cats_Steve wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:39 pmWhat the fuck am I on? Directed at thingo's signature.AFLcrap1 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:17 pmLolCats_Steve wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:07 pm
Haha thanks mate. At least that makes sense, sorta, with the accumulated totals.
So do we subtract the Melbourne ratings from origin, gf and Internationals from your year end total? Coz those figures are coming from people with a different favourite sport.
Some facts for you
Afl fans on here only look at ratings through the insular prism of one comp..because that's all they have
We are multi tiered..with rep games attracting huge ratings ..a positive
But also impacting on nrl game ratings due to missing players etc .a negative .
AFL has more games per week .
Has more teams .
RL has a team from Nz who's home ratings are not counted amongst the ratings
So it's 18 teams ratings v 15 teams ratings plus rep games .
Afl games that overlap are broadcast into home markets to maximise viewers .
Which makes up for the loss of any viewers due to overlap .
Yet despite all this we smash you in overall ratings for th year..
Some accept this .
Others are far too brainwashed to see the reality
As for subtracting viewers because it's not their fave sport .
What the fuck are you on
"Australia's most popular sport"
Apparently based solely on accumulated ratings.
So do the Melbourne eyes on the only part of your game which is interesting count toward your accumulated figures which indicate the most popular sport?