Talking Footy

The_Wookie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:47 pm

Ok this is the same disconnect we have with the soccer folks. Its great your doing well as a code internationally, however locally in Australia, the situation is no where near as rosy as you folks would have us believe. Union is now the 4th code in the country at professional level based on almost every measure.

Both us and soccer fans aren't under any delusion where both sports stand in the Australian sporting market especially rugby but we both know our sports respectively have more substance than one competition.

This is something you AFL and League fans will one day understand when your game because more than just a battle of suburbs

I look forward to watching the AFL international Cup said no one ever

rugby365 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:47 pm

The_Wookie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:47 pm

Ok this is the same disconnect we have with the soccer folks. Its great your doing well as a code internationally, however locally in Australia, the situation is no where near as rosy as you folks would have us believe. Union is now the 4th code in the country at professional level based on almost every measure.

Both us and soccer fans aren't under any delusion where both sports stand in the Australian sporting market especially rugby but we both know our sports respectively have more substance than one competition.

This is something you AFL and League fans will one day understand when your game because more than just a battle of suburbs

I look forward to watching the AFL international Cup said no one ever

I dont think you have to be international to have crediability, look at Stanley cup in Ice Hockey, NFL, Arena FL, GFA, some codes have OS presence which dwarf AFL but it doesnt stop the AFL being just as relevant. Other leagues in soccer are fighting as much between themselves as against other codes for exposure, the one thing that AFL and NRL have got is a different product. E.g. Bundersleague v Premier League v Spanish League its all same without the big names your not really going to watch unless you follow the club.

rugby365 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:48 pm

Terry wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:04 pm

The_Wookie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:09 am

Totally agree.

Union sold its soul for short term gain when it went international with super rugby, and now its wayyyyyy too late. Soccer has past it at the professional level. The NRC is too little too late.

You cant be playing half your club games overseas at ridiculous times away from the fan base and expect to stay on top of the game.

I can't argue with any of that Wookie. Whilst ever Super Rugby is the main domestic comp in Aust. the game is going nowhere fast.

The game has become an Olympic sport, the last World Cup drew more than 2.4million in attendance, World Cup will be going to Japan, increase in invest into the game from 340mil pounds the previous year 4 years to 416mil pounds for the next 4 years. Participation has reached over 8 million world wide, Japan and Argentina join super rugby.

AFL - making food cheaper at games
league - has taken the World Cup to Darwin

It's clear which sport is going places and which are going no where fast

Either way you want to attempt to put some spin on it, internationally union is going great guns, locally it's struggling

The_Wookie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:24 pm

rugby365 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:47 pm

The_Wookie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:47 pm

Ok this is the same disconnect we have with the soccer folks. Its great your doing well as a code internationally, however locally in Australia, the situation is no where near as rosy as you folks would have us believe. Union is now the 4th code in the country at professional level based on almost every measure.

Both us and soccer fans aren't under any delusion where both sports stand in the Australian sporting market especially rugby but we both know our sports respectively have more substance than one competition.

This is something you AFL and League fans will one day understand when your game because more than just a battle of suburbs

I look forward to watching the AFL international Cup said no one ever

The difference is you people seem to think we should care that AFL isnt international. Despite the views of a few zealots, 99.9% of AFL fans couldnt give a shit. Hell we canned our own Origin series, and despite some people wanting it back every year, most are content for it to be a national club comp and nothing more.

Not to sure about that Wookster. I couldn't give a flying fig about what fumble fans think - that's something for medical professionals to work out. But it's pretty obvious Gilligan and the crew running the SS minnow are thinking international. He talked up NZ and told 'em there were 50,000 fumble ball players over there already lololololololol and he wanted a team from NZ in the FFL. That of course was before you fumblers got kicked out of Wellington lololololol.

And fumblehouse comes out every year and boasts about the the tens of thousands of 'players' outside Australia lolololololol. They even put the drivel in their annual report. And now of course you fumblers are about to take over China lolololololololol......in fact fumblehouse reported one game had ratings of 4 million lolo.ololololol.

And then there's the 'international series' against Ireland. That's my favourite. It's hilarious when the amateur bog farmers give you full time 'professional' fumblers an annual flogging lololololololol.

Oh....and then there's the thing called the 'international cup' lololololololol.

So in short: Someone in fumblehouse is desperately talking up and financing 'international' so I think it's only fair that posters here can comment on it.

So in short:

The_Wookie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:24 pm

rugby365 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:47 pm

The_Wookie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:47 pm

Ok this is the same disconnect we have with the soccer folks. Its great your doing well as a code internationally, however locally in Australia, the situation is no where near as rosy as you folks would have us believe. Union is now the 4th code in the country at professional level based on almost every measure.

Both us and soccer fans aren't under any delusion where both sports stand in the Australian sporting market especially rugby but we both know our sports respectively have more substance than one competition.

This is something you AFL and League fans will one day understand when your game because more than just a battle of suburbs

I look forward to watching the AFL international Cup said no one ever

The difference is you people seem to think we should care that AFL isnt international. Despite the views of a few zealots, 99.9% of AFL fans couldnt give a shit. Hell we canned our own Origin series, and despite some people wanting it back every year, most are content for it to be a national club comp and nothing more.

Of course you don't care, why would you care about something that doesn't exist.

The_Wookie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:42 am

Oh I care about the international scene as far as the game is concerned, but i also see it for what it is, a developing amateur scene.

What you seem to think is that professional comps are all that matters, which is horseshit.

exactly my point, you see internationals for what it is and I see Australia rugby for what it is. There is no point in getting upset that Australia rugby is struggling when I know "rugby" the game I love is getting bigger and stronger as the years go by

Wookie said, "Im pretty sure that the New Zealand figure was a miscommunication given it lines up almost precisely with the number of participants, as opposed to players."

Surely you don't really think this was a miscommunication. If you do I've got a bunch of bridges to sell ya lololololololol. This is the usual marketing lie told by the fumblers. They are now being called out on it but amazingly still try it on from time to time.

Terry wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:15 am

Wookie said, "Im pretty sure that the New Zealand figure was a miscommunication given it lines up almost precisely with the number of participants, as opposed to players."

Surely you don't really think this was a miscommunication. If you do I've got a bunch of bridges to sell ya lololololololol. This is the usual marketing lie told by the fumblers. They are now being called out on it but amazingly still try it on from time to time.

I agree .

It happens too many times for it to be accidental.. Or miscommunication .
For a well run organisation ...which it is, there seems to be a constant bad area when playing numbers are talked about .
This is the figure (bullshit figure) ..if or when it is questioned suddenly umm it was mistake ..I was quoting another figure
It's just a variable of the old ploy of if you throw enough mud it will stick .
If you talk enough bullshit figures( oh it was a mistake) then some believe it .

A few examples
The senate committee...20k ...was really 3 k
NZ ..30 k. Really 1800
Birch grove oval ...1600 ..really 280
My fave ....110,000 players overseas...
Plus the usual participation bullshit numbers that are treated as gospel by fumblers ...86 k females in NSW:(/

N Korea could learn a thing or two off the Aflol propaganda DEPT .

Yep, we'll never see anything like the Lawson report again. Fumblehouse put the author on the payroll to shut him up lolololololol. I s'pose it's better to have the enemy (or in this case the reporter of truth) inside the tent p...ing out rather than outside the tent p...ing in lolololololol.

The_Wookie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:18 pm

The AFL almost never uses "registered players" when promoting game development. It is always "participants or registered participants". I stand by my assertion that either he mispoke or was misquoted.

He didn't get misquoted because I've seen the clip. And as far as I know this word 'mispoke' is used by politicians when they're caught out lying so possibly you're right about that.

Alternative facts lol

Lol

AFLcrap1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:41 pm

leagueiscrap wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:52 pm

AFLcrap1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:30 pm

Lol
Tell me sarge .
Why are afl participation figures treated as gospel
Yet when RL participation figures beat them ...suddenly you mob aren't interested anymore

Lol it's actually you tin foil hat brigade take them as gospel

So in another survey show the afl has more participants than the nrlol yet you'll still rant over your nrlol figures!

You really really are clueless
Go look at the last few threads on this subject .
Have a look at who started them .
Fumblers
Why is that
They think the figures released by afl house are true .
They gloat over them

Go bang your head into a wall a few more times
It mite wake up the remaining brain cell you haven't pickled

http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/6123- ... 1503182151
http://www.topendsports.com/world/lists ... ipants.htm
http://www.ausport.gov.au/information/casro/ERASS
http://www.footyindustry.com/?page_id=2058
http://www.footyindustry.com/?page_id=2061
http://www.footyindustry.com/?page_id=3076
http://www.footyindustry.com/?page_id=444
http://www.footyindustry.com/?page_id=623


all show more people play AR than League

if you want we can go in to several articles, from different news sources from artiels over the years showing less people playing league each year, yet the NRLOLs annual reports show apparently more people are

leagueiscrap wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:29 pm

AFLcrap1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:41 pm

leagueiscrap wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:52 pm

Lol it's actually you tin foil hat brigade take them as gospel

So in another survey show the afl has more participants than the nrlol yet you'll still rant over your nrlol figures!

You really really are clueless
Go look at the last few threads on this subject .
Have a look at who started them .
Fumblers
Why is that
They think the figures released by afl house are true .
They gloat over them

Go bang your head into a wall a few more times
It mite wake up the remaining brain cell you haven't pickled

http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/6123- ... 1503182151
http://www.topendsports.com/world/lists ... ipants.htm
http://www.ausport.gov.au/information/casro/ERASS
http://www.footyindustry.com/?page_id=2058
http://www.footyindustry.com/?page_id=2061
http://www.footyindustry.com/?page_id=3076
http://www.footyindustry.com/?page_id=444
http://www.footyindustry.com/?page_id=623


all show more people play AR than League

if you want we can go in to several articles, from different news sources from artiels over the years showing less people playing league each year, yet the NRLOLs annual reports show apparently more people are

Roy Morgan surveys .
Lol
That's not an accurate number .

The first one you put up was 1995
Then there was 2010
How fucking hard is it to find something current .
& not a survey .




The last one .
An afl bullshit media release that says we EXPECT a certain number by yrs end
Then carry on as if that's a real number .

Can you put up something decent .
lol no .

AFLcrap1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:04 pm

leagueiscrap wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:29 pm

AFLcrap1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:41 pm

You really really are clueless
Go look at the last few threads on this subject .
Have a look at who started them .
Fumblers
Why is that
They think the figures released by afl house are true .
They gloat over them

Go bang your head into a wall a few more times
It mite wake up the remaining brain cell you haven't pickled

http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/6123- ... 1503182151
http://www.topendsports.com/world/lists ... ipants.htm
http://www.ausport.gov.au/information/casro/ERASS
http://www.footyindustry.com/?page_id=2058
http://www.footyindustry.com/?page_id=2061
http://www.footyindustry.com/?page_id=3076
http://www.footyindustry.com/?page_id=444
http://www.footyindustry.com/?page_id=623


all show more people play AR than League

if you want we can go in to several articles, from different news sources from artiels over the years showing less people playing league each year, yet the NRLOLs annual reports show apparently more people are

Roy Morgan surveys .
Lol
That's not an accurate number .

The first one you put up was 1995
Then there was 2010
How fucking hard is it to find something current .
& not a survey .




The last one .
An afl bullshit media release that says we EXPECT a certain number by yrs end
Then carry on as if that's a real number .

Can you put up something decent .
lol no .

lol same story as usual all lies lies because the stats don't suit your beliefs

Pick the common result in those pieces of research spazza, erass, abs, Roy Morgan etc all show afl has more participants!