Streaming companies want to broadcast AFL

[Terry]

There's "every chance" that my aunties my uncle too bummy lolololololol!!!! In other words you haven't got a clue pal. The NRL deal is commercial in confidence. The only thing we know for sure is that it's 'over' $400M. So there is every chance that it's more than $418M and could be as high or higher than $473M.

Them's the facts pal!!!!!

Theres every chance you write this will nodding at a wall in a strait jacket at an asylum somewhere too.

Commercial in confidence becase the ARLC is shit scared of being swamped by the AFL after their announcement AGAIN as has happened every time since 2001.

If it was high enough theyd have announced a higher figure. No one says "400m+" if its a lot higher.

Ya just can't make it up bummy. Fact is you don't know pal. So don't pretend ya do!! And I realise child like rants are your schtick but you really should grow up. You do yourself a great miss-service with this idiocy.

[truthbomber]

I see. I always thought the AFL got heaps more. Good to know.

AFL rights for 2023-24 went for 473m pa. (946m over years)
NRL rights for the same period to 2027 went for "over 400m" pa.

hahaha
ah
no they didn't

there was no separate deal for 23/24
the new aflol deal was 2020-2024

the extra 57 million PA in 2023/24 is not an increase but the money owed from the years 2020-22 where ch 7 was most likely instructed by the aflol to pay them less contract money for those 3 years , & then the balance in 2023/24 so the aflol could spruke a big increase to its dopey followers.
Fact is there was no increase for 2020-2024 from the previous deal with the total amount over those 5 years being 2.080 Bill or
416 mill a year
manipulating of the figures might pull the wool over dopey aflol fans but not we're not all those are we

[truthbomber]

if its a competition to see who is performing better financially between the 2 codes
it aint a competition ,
the NRL with less revenue then the aflol , spent more on its clubs & grassroots then the aflol

but
posted a better bottom line result to the tune of 86 million dollars in just 2021 alone , & it will be more then 120 million dollars during the period 2020-22

The NRL is out performing the aflol so comfortably on the financial front it is laughable

maybe the aflol should be chasing Lord Peter Vlandys as their next CEO , they need a saviour afterall

[truthbomber]

So do you think the AFL deal will be maintain the same money difference to that of what the NRL.ARL got ior will the gap grow or become smaller? do we even know what the NRL/ARL deal was?

the AFL signed a 2 year deal extension with new rights 2023 and 2024
NRL have signed a 5 year extension beginning in 2023 and ending in 2027

the deals done between the codes when NRL includes the Dolphins extra money has AFL slightly ahead.

the current negotiation's, who knows...
if the AFL get a better deal than the recent 2 year extension, it will effect the fans, the players will get more money and the fans less FTA

thats actually not correct Leeroy

the covid re negotiated deal kicked in from 2020
a 5 year deal through to 2024 with both Ch 7 & foxtel

the mistake people make on 23/24 is the aflol spin about the amount in those years being 473 mill pa
which it will be
but...

the increase is just the money the voluntarily didn't get from ch 7 in 2020-22
so while it looks good , its just smoke & mirrors

slight of hand
etc

https://mumbrella.com.au/seven-signs-ne ... eal-631000

all explained in that article there

[WookieReturns]

Yes its mentioned in the Master article.

[WookieReturns]

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the increase is just the money they voluntarily didn't get from ch 7 in 2020-22

Fucking voluntarily didnt get my ass. Seven and Fox both demanded less for breach of contract. the AFl didnt just go "hey we'll give this back out of the goodness of our heart". Fucking lol.

[truthbomber]

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the increase is just the money they voluntarily didn't get from ch 7 in 2020-22

Fucking voluntarily didnt get my ass. Seven and Fox both demanded less for breach of contract. the AFl didnt just go "hey we'll give this back out of the goodness of our heart". Fucking lol.

you moron
Ch 7 signed a new deal

thats

new deal with the aflol due to the breach of contract as a result of covid in 2020 through to the end of 2024

the amount
$730 mill , exactly the same annual average from the old deal 2017-22. NO increase
foxtel didn't increase their deal either
now the aflol in its usual egotistical desperate to appear to be doing better then it actually is mode couldn't tell its dopey fans it didn't get an increase , so it told Ch 7 to pay it less in 2020-22 & the contract balance in 2023-24
thats what happened

[WookieReturns]

if its a competition to see who is performing better financially between the 2 codes
it aint a competition ,
the NRL with less revenue then the aflol , spent more on its clubs & grassroots then the aflol

Not when facilities and grants to grassroots are included I believe.

posted a better bottom line result to the tune of 86 million dollars in just 2021 alone , & it will be more then 120 million dollars during the period 2020-22

AFL took a $29m loss in 2021. NRL made a 43m profit. 72m difference

The NRL is out performing the aflol so comfortably on the financial front it is laughable

Literally based on last years result only.



You know except in revenue. The AFL can always spend less. We're good thanks.

[WookieReturns]

you moron
Ch 7 signed a new deal

Seven did its extended deal first, Fox didnt come in for 2023-2024 til later.

thats new deal with the aflol due to the breach of contract as a result of covid in 2020 through to the end of 2024

it was revised and then extended, it saved Seven about 70m. the extension was on top of this.

the amount
$730 mill , exactly the same annual average from the old deal 2017-22. NO increase
foxtel didn't increase their deal either

The average amount per year comes to 146m - it increases in the last 2 years. Foxes deal hasnt been announced and neither has telstras. Mclachlan has publicly said that there is a slight overall increase.

now the aflol in its usual egotistical desperate to appear to be doing better then it actually is mode couldn't tell its dopey fans it didn't get an increase , so it told Ch 7 to pay it less in 2020-22 & the contract balance in 2023-24
thats what happened

This scenario you have completely invented in your tiny mind.

[pussycat Mark 11]

Doesn't the AFL contract for 2023 - 24 include Telstra 5g sponsorship Wookie as well as possible unknown other. And surely the fact that they will fail to make a profit in those 2 years must also come into it .

It includes Telstra sponsorship. Seven, Fox and Telstra were all part of the announcement. Like the League announcement, no one really knows what the contra part is - although the AFL have continued to release this figure every year.

Whether they profit or loss is irrelevant to the amount they get for rights in this context. The AFL predict a return to normal revenue levels in 2024, this is not the same as making a loss in 2023-24.

I'm sure I read an aFL article, possibly from Gil himself , that said they wouldn't make a profit for the next 5 years.

I thought it was relevant to bring it up, it sounded very much like someone was bragging about there financial situation. And they better get in quick and make the deal because it would appear there's a major recession right around the corner.

[truthbomber]

if its a competition to see who is performing better financially between the 2 codes
it aint a competition ,
the NRL with less revenue then the aflol , spent more on its clubs & grassroots then the aflol

Not when facilities and grants to grassroots are included I believe.

posted a better bottom line result to the tune of 86 million dollars in just 2021 alone , & it will be more then 120 million dollars during the period 2020-22

AFL took a $29m loss in 2021. NRL made a 43m profit. 72m difference

The NRL is out performing the aflol so comfortably on the financial front it is laughable

Literally based on last years result only.



You know except in revenue. The AFL can always spend less. We're good thanks.

oh so the aflol only made a 29 mill loss in 2021 eh ?
despite them saying it was 43 mill themselves ?

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-ne ... 2796946133

idiot

thats
an 86 million dollar better bottom line then the aflol
with
less revenue
whilst spending more on its clubs & grass roots then the aflol did on theirs

when the NRL post another 40 million plus profit in 2022 & the awful another 40 million plus loss
the difference the 2 codes bottom lines will be over 170 million in just 2 years

yea dopey
maybe your bumbling misfit financial basket case of a code ...... should spend less

wow
just wow....

[WookieReturns]

oh so the aflol only made a 29 mill loss in 2021 eh ?
despite them saying it was 43 mill themselves ?

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-ne ... 2796946133

idiot

I take my information direct from audited AFL annual reports, not the news media. clown.

thats
an 86 million dollar better bottom line then the aflol
with
less revenue
whilst spending more on its clubs & grass roots then the aflol did on theirs

Would be...if it were true. Which its not in either case.

yea dopey
maybe your bumbling misfit financial basket case of a code ...... should spend less

wow
just wow....

Dont have to if you can take the hit. Which the AFL can and has. And still sits on more cash and assets than the NRL. its not all profit and loss.

AFL cash and cash equivelents - 249m
NRL cash and cash equivelants - 165m

AFL assets 658m
NRL assets 264m

AFL equity 200m
NRL equity 138m

[pussycat Mark 11]

Wookie did the AFL draw on any of its bank loan?

[pussycat Mark 11]

This comes from the AFL website.

The AFL told the clubs it recorded a cash surplus in 2021 but had an underlying operating loss of $43 million on the year.

Sounds like very reputable people were dealing with here.

[truthbomber]

oh so the aflol only made a 29 mill loss in 2021 eh ?
despite them saying it was 43 mill themselves ?

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-ne ... 2796946133

idiot

I take my information direct from audited AFL annual reports, not the news media. clown.

of course you would ... when it suits you like a typical fumbler

the aflol LOST.. 43 million
spin it anyway you want , thats the figure