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Whoever thinks that the drop in NRL crowds can be arrested by a $700 million transformation of the Olympic Stadium must have had their brain re-shaped from an oval to a rectangle. It's simply wrong, and it's offensive to every school and hospital in this state that is in genuine need of government funding.

We can save the NRL and the state a lot of money in surveys and tell them right here why the average rugby league crowd has fallen below 15,000 for the first time since 2004. Here are the top nine reasons people don't attend NRL matches.

They don't like rugby league. Not much to be done about that, although in its current negotiations with the players' union, the league has said that off-field atrocities by players are the No. 1 factor in turning waverers off the game. Baloney. Anyone who stopped attending Roosters matches because Mitchell Pearce simulated sex with a dog was just a hater looking for an exit. The league fans you want to bring back are those who stopped attending matches because of Mitchell Pearce's kicking game.
They have something else on. This is not a bad thing, and indeed is to be encouraged in a general "Life Be In It" kind of way. The fewer people watching rugby league on weekends, instead spending their time rock climbing, parasailing, stand-up paddleboarding, going for walks with their families etc, the better for the nation. But anyway…
The weather. As Charles Dudley Warner said (later amplified by Mark Twain), everybody complains about it but nobody does anything about it. This year, the NRL can't blame the rain, which has not fallen on the eastern seaboard since the cricket season.
Your Team is rubbish. Now we're getting closer. Three of the four poorest crowds this season have been for home games staged by the Bulldogs, which as a team shares the plight of the year 12 maths students of Coonamble High School, who have only just realised that they have been studying the wrong syllabus. On the other hand, six of the top eight crowds have been at Suncorp to watch the high-riding Broncos. The Your Team factor is critical, and it's not ultimately a zero-sum game. The NRL's most popular teams in its biggest city are the Dragons, the Bulldogs, the Rabbitohs and the Eels. Only one of those four is having a good season. Go figure. If the players really want a share of rising overall revenue, they will conspire to stop the Storm, Roosters and Sharks from winning so much and put the Dragons and Bunnies on top again.
Ticket prices. NRL ticket prices are both too high and not high enough. While memberships and general admission tickets at suburban grounds are reasonable value, premium seating is a rip-off and prohibitive to anyone thinking of bringing a family. As previously argued in this column, tickets to all major sporting fixtures should have a nominal or zero price, as gate money is a drop in the revenue ocean compared with television broadcast deals. Tickets are too often priced just highly enough to put people off, but not highly enough to raise meaningful revenue.
Food prices. There is no price that could tempt me to eat the food at most rugby league grounds, so perhaps the price point is a moot point. To extort $6 from patrons for a handful of hot chips that are neither hot nor, by any ordinary definition, chips, is a swindle you would expect of the Commonwealth Bank, not a rugby league club.
The toilets. A trip to the men's room during any NRL game, at any venue, is an exercise in nostalgia that is not to everyone's taste. That smell, that humid closeness, is something that harks back to public spaces before the world renovated itself, to the slums of the industrial revolution, indeed, to the below-decks atmosphere of the convict fleets. To take in fluid during a rugby league game, knowing what effluvia are swarming about in the public conveniences, is to risk a painful Hobson's Choice: hold it in or let it go? As the tension builds toward the final siren, it can really ruin your enjoyment of the game.
Stadium location. Todd Greenberg can say till he's blue and white in the face that the Olympic Stadium isn't working for rugby league because it's not rectangular. The main reason people don't go to the Olympic Stadium in Homebush isn't because it's an oval ground. The main reason people don't go is because it's in Homebush, and their team is based in Redfern/Leichhardt/Belmore/Parramatta/Kogarah. Each of those suburbs could have a 20,000-seat stadium for a fraction of the price of the Homebush "transformation", and league would live happily ever after.
Stadium quality. By all means, if the SFS has bits falling off, fix it. But spanking new stadia do not attract more people, and never have in the history of rugby league. In fact, people like the opposite. Whenever the Tigers play at Leichhardt, the Dogs at Belmore, the Dragons at Kogarah and so on, everyone from Phil Gould down to Aunt Sally raves about how much they love rugby league in its suburban spiritual home. Duh. The more Brookvale Oval crumbles, the more the fans love it. None of these grounds is incapable of containing regular crowds. And who would you prefer to share the experience with – 15,000 people at Leichhardt, or 15,000 in the Olympic Stadium?
To hear one state premier and sports minister after another announce a new stadium strategy is to lose oneself inside an episode of the ABC's excellent satire Utopia. Doesn't matter if it makes no sense, as long as someone is "Getting The Job Done''. Every year the NSW government re-announces a plan, the main ambition of which is to one-up the previous plan's budget. Can't New South Wales think of a better way to spend $1.6 billion than revamping stadiums for which there is no need beyond the need of other corporate leaders to make other announcements? But maybe if the solution were to renovate the toilets at Brookvale and rethink the turnstiles at Leichhardt, that is thinking too small for our bloated times, fattened on stamp duty from Ponzi schemes and suffering arteriosclerosis of the brain.

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why cant they just skip the but buts and just admit reality!
the Nrlol's crowds are shit always have been shit and always will be shit
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If I was at an NRL match I'll eventually get bored by the 10th minute and decided to take my time pissing in the stadium urinals while talking politics to the thickneck next to me.

To be honest I reckon that's why there is no one a the stadiums, everyone is too busy in the powder rooms talking sports and women.
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The_Wookie wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:20 pm
we need to pull out cos old list lol
it did have a good few points in it :(/
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there is a big reason the lowest attendances this year
have been at Olympic Pk...

70 meters from the field>> the ground is a disgrace to rectangle codes.
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leeroy*NRL* wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:02 pm
there is a big reason the lowest attendances this year
have been at Olympic Pk...

70 meters from the field>> the ground is a disgrace to rectangle codes.
thats this but but for this year!
how the last 70 years going!
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lol your from Victoria and have probably never even been out of your little Melbourne bubble let alone to a better city like Sydney.

The reason a rectangular stadium is needed at homebush is because the 3 most popular football codes in NSW Soccer, Rugby Union and Rugby League are the ones that will use it.
International soccer matches, State of Origins, NRL Grand finals etc have all had bigger crowds at homebush than any one off AFL game.

AFL fans hate ANZ. And they used it once all year. If it is good enough to spend money on upgrading all the oval stadiums, why is it not fine to upgrade or the rectangular stadiums.

A rectangular stadium in homebush is going to happen. GWS and AFL are irrelevant in the issue. Because they have their own stadiums.

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NRL&NFLweLaughATafl wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:48 am
lol your from Victoria and have probably never even been out of your little Melbourne bubble let alone to a better city like Sydney.

The reason a rectangular stadium is needed at homebush is because the 3 most popular football codes in NSW Soccer, Rugby Union and Rugby League are the ones that will use it.
International soccer matches, State of Origins, NRL Grand finals etc have all had bigger crowds at homebush than any one off AFL game.

AFL fans hate ANZ. And they used it once all year. If it is good enough to spend money on upgrading all the oval stadiums, why is it not fine to upgrade or the rectangular stadiums.

A rectangular stadium in homebush is going to happen. GWS and AFL are irrelevant in the issue. Because they have their own stadiums.

Now be a good little boy and go back to your little one nation Victorian game and debate things you actually know about. :cool:
Nice try
I wasn born over seas lived in Victoria for a short while, but most of my life in the qld and WA! And in the hunter valley for a short period of times, unlike you who wouldn't have progressed out of your parents basement often.

The nrlol crowds are shit and always have been shit a new stadium no matter how much you league dweebs jump up and down and attempts to change history and reality! The international crowd sizes in Sydney are pathetic, grand final only just sells out with discounted tickets & soon a state vs state gimmick as proven with the mass drop off of fans as soon as a game of soo if finished

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On TV you don't get to see much of the post match celebrations. So, this being the highlight of the match for fumbler fans they tend to turn up in greater numbers. The matches themselves are long and boring as bat shit. Hence the poor ratings.
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pussycat wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:56 am
On TV you don't get to see much of the post match celebrations. So, this being the highlight of the match for fumbler fans they tend to turn up in greater numbers. The matches themselves are long and boring as bat shit. Hence the poor ratings.
25-4 suggests otherwise.

In fact you need to worry about poor ratings in Sydney. 2 nights in a row the NRL in sydney has been outrated by exhibition games in Melbourne :(/
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leagueiscrap wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:39 am
NRL&NFLweLaughATafl wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:48 am
lol your from Victoria and have probably never even been out of your little Melbourne bubble let alone to a better city like Sydney.

The reason a rectangular stadium is needed at homebush is because the 3 most popular football codes in NSW Soccer, Rugby Union and Rugby League are the ones that will use it.
International soccer matches, State of Origins, NRL Grand finals etc have all had bigger crowds at homebush than any one off AFL game.

AFL fans hate ANZ. And they used it once all year. If it is good enough to spend money on upgrading all the oval stadiums, why is it not fine to upgrade or the rectangular stadiums.

A rectangular stadium in homebush is going to happen. GWS and AFL are irrelevant in the issue. Because they have their own stadiums.

Now be a good little boy and go back to your little one nation Victorian game and debate things you actually know about. :cool:
Nice try
I wasn born over seas lived in Victoria for a short while, but most of my life in the qld and WA! And in the hunter valley for a short period of times, unlike you who wouldn't have progressed out of your parents basement often.

The nrlol crowds are shit and always have been shit a new stadium no matter how much you league dweebs jump up and down and attempts to change history and reality! The international crowd sizes in Sydney are pathetic, grand final only just sells out with discounted tickets & soon a state vs state gimmick as proven with the mass drop off of fans as soon as a game of soo if finished

Now in your words go off back to the basement aka your safe space and be a good little buy & stay in that insular bubble that you live in! Bolt down the windows n door & keep wrapping the walls in tin foil to keep reality and those nasty conspiracies out
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SOO is not a gimmick
It's a rep series that's usually the biggest football event in this country each year.

It's bigger than every game bar the occasional fumble GF .

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I would agree that nrl or rl do need a rectanglular stadium. Either they do this to Homebush or knock it down. I think the nrl need to build a 50000 seat stadium ... start anew. This want bring crowds, that issue is bigger than just stadiums ... but it is a move in the right direction. The nrl however need to commit funds ... be smart like the afl have done and sell it not just as an nrl stadium but infrastructure.

Also... you think rugby union is still bigger in Sydney than afl ? Must be the last bastion for ru there lol.
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Fred wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:25 pm
I would agree that nrl or rl do need a rectanglular stadium. Either they do this to Homebush or knock it down. I think the nrl need to build a 50000 seat stadium ... start anew. This want bring crowds, that issue is bigger than just stadiums ... but it is a move in the right direction. The nrl however need to commit funds ... be smart like the afl have done and sell it not just as an nrl stadium but infrastructure.

Also... you think rugby union is still bigger in Sydney than afl ? Must be the last bastion for ru there lol.
They already do it's called Allianz stadium, it's located next to the scg! It was built in the early 90s around the same year the great southern stand at the mcg was built.
The crowds at the venue are similar to that of the anz stadium.
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They were saying something on 4bc tonight when they announced the finals schedule about a game being at Homebush and they couldn't believe why this was so. Manly I think? Anyway one commentator stated it may be because the afl has a game on that day and the nrl may be hoping the crowd spills over to go the the nrl game later on? If this is true it's a sad state for nrl in Sydney ... the one place it should be huge. Prices seemed good though... 50 bucks for a family ticket he reckoned ?
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thats probably the main reason! the Essendon vs Swans game sold out with in days so a large crowd will be there thats for sure, not that the swans need a large team like Essendon to attract a large crowd as they are pretty good at doing that agaist any AFL team :\:

it could also depend on what teams are playing in the nrlol as to what stadium they use Allianz or ANZ, but from memory the NRLOL usually use Allianz for the first round or two of finals series then stick with ANZ...

their finals series tickets are usualy pretty cheap and affordable as well, wait for the GF tickets to be released, im sure the NRLOL has released theirs already as a proper indication, but in the past the NRLOL has been around less than half the price as the AFL GF tickets.

so if you were a league fan :(/ its usualy cheapness for an individual or family & relatively easy to get a ticket to the GF!, unlike the AFL GF thats the luck of the draw or how much are you willing to spend
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